WAC Beta v0.1 - Downloads, comments, suggestions

[Sethsryt]

The two Poignards are actually different in colour, so maybe you added colour variation?

And yes, Mormacil beat me to it. It is apparently the mother of the Underfrykte, http://www.imperial-library.info/obbook ... rnal.shtml that's some more information and lore on it.
Though it might look good already, I am sure that if the Underfrykte catches your attention I want to wait doing that quest..

As well as maybe the items gained by defeating the Matron of monsters.. If you are going to touch those things, I'll wait patiently till you release it.

And yes, playing without WaC? I can't anymore, actually I am peeking at other parts of Tamriel mods and wondering if I will like them, just because they don't have WAC there. I am like "Okey, I enter lets say.. Skyrim, and I do not encounter unique creatures there.." But also the great amount of conflicts. I wish for a total tamriel which is both lore based and is like. Totally tamriel instead of all different projects. x.x But then again, Tamriel is a big island, even for the Oblivion Size..

EDIT: At the preview: Nice armours, really, will there be an option where you can select which opponent you will fight when you are a grand champion? That would be so great, that would actually be a reward to fight for, instead of the vanilla 'you can fight beasts after you are grand champion'.

And I encountered some Snow Fears at night. Jikes those beasts are freaky at night, with their lit up eyes..

Ah, plus a picturesque one from a satisfied Vigdis:

[Waalx]

EDIT: At the preview: Nice armours, really, will there be an option where you can select which opponent you will fight when you are a grand champion? That would be so great, that would actually be a reward to fight for, instead of the vanilla 'you can fight beasts after you are grand champion'.

Well the choices are limited since they are given with voiced dialogues by Ysabel. I have an idea how to turn what she say to my advantage though...but that is not done yet.

I said previously that you will not fight only beasts. There's always more things in the ring than what you are supposed to be against.
Well that was an half truth concerning the beasts you choose at least.

If I manage to do what I have in mind, there will be no beasts at all in what she offer. But themed gladiators. This all started when I made the Minotor (the spelling is right) armor, now long ago.

The Minotor armor is the precursor of the Boba Fett armor, which in turn is the precursor of WAC. So if there would not have been the Minotor armor and what it triggered, there might not be a WAC today.

But to return to the Minotor...it's named like that for a reason. A Minotor is not a creature, it's an NPC gladiator. Get where I'm going with that?

I'll let you imagine the rest while I do it for real in my corner.

[Sethsryt]

Another one, before I forget.. I forgot it, but found it. An odd tooth problem..



By the way, isn't there a line in which she asks you what you want to fight? And then it just gives you some options and then she just says something like "Good luck" ? I'm sorry, I just want such epic fights that take long in the arena. In which every move counts, every mistake is being paid for in blood and every success essential for winning and thus surviving a match.

[reallybigjohnson]

im loving the little touches this mod adds......the cages and the hanging corpses around. and im using alot of UL mods and so far havent seen anything out of the ordinary although ive only been to a couple of the camps so far.

the armor ive seen in this mod is some of the best armor i have seen to date. much more realistic and not cartoony or WoW like many other mods have been. not to rip on peoples tastes but i was really discouraged when i came back to obvlivion to and checked out the new armors on nexus.........they were all mostly beauty type armors. this mod is a refreshing change.

im wondering why you made the bronze weapons stronger than steel since steel is stronger than bronze......we had the bronze age before the iron age.

thank you thank you thank you for the smurfs............that was so therapautic and as an added bonus i was also able to avenge the poor coyote by killing a roadrunner...............aaaaahh that was nice.

im not sure if its a bug or a function of the game as i also noticed this from other mods. sometimes when i go into a couple of the mages guild skingrad and either chorrol or cheydinhall forget which one. some of the mages are nakies and not wearing their armor. if i resurrect them they put their gear on but will be naked again the next time i enter the room. its almost like they are taking of there clothes for some weird reason.

[Tracinya]

im wondering why you made the bronze weapons stronger than steel since steel is stronger than bronze......we had the bronze age before the iron age.

Well, Oblivion made glass better than both mithril and steel, so...

[Guest]

Hi Waalx,

On a small Island near Anvil (South East) you've place a wood Tower (not sure what the word is). Are you planning to do more?

Let me explain:
My next mod uses this place...and I want it to be 100% compatible with WAC...obviously you're first in terms of priority, which means I'll move my "chimer" ruin if necessary but if you're not planning to do anything with this place then that will be great to pull down de Tower...

The ball is in your camp...

[dhaka]

first off i realy like all of the stuff in your mod.
however i've got a slight problem/thingy.
before i had just played with the realswords mods, and ive gotten moonbrand.
now however i enabeled WAC and disabled the realswords mods only to see that all the weapons i collected are gone
including moonbrand.
is there anyway to get it back or so?

[Mormacil]

Awesome but aren't the bows a bit big for short ranged combat?

[washington]

A teaser of the Arena Combatants...so far. Don't check this if you want to keep the element of surprise intact. Those in red rainment are Arena Challengers (Amazons are of that group as well even if they wear no rainment).

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Their b b is missing...

[Sethsryt]

Nobody said fighting in the Arena was safe.. :p

A teaser of the Arena Combatants...so far. Don't check this if you want to keep the element of surprise intact. Those in red rainment are Arena Challengers (Amazons are of that group as well even if they wear no rainment).

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Their b b is missing...

[Waalx]

im loving the little touches this mod adds......the cages and the hanging corpses around. and im using alot of UL mods and so far havent seen anything out of the ordinary although ive only been to a couple of the camps so far.

the armor ive seen in this mod is some of the best armor i have seen to date. much more realistic and not cartoony or WoW like many other mods have been. not to rip on peoples tastes but i was really discouraged when i came back to obvlivion to and checked out the new armors on nexus.........they were all mostly beauty type armors. this mod is a refreshing change.

im wondering why you made the bronze weapons stronger than steel since steel is stronger than bronze......we had the bronze age before the iron age.

thank you thank you thank you for the smurfs............that was so therapautic and as an added bonus i was also able to avenge the poor coyote by killing a roadrunner...............aaaaahh that was nice.

im not sure if its a bug or a function of the game as i also noticed this from other mods. sometimes when i go into a couple of the mages guild skingrad and either chorrol or cheydinhall forget which one. some of the mages are nakies and not wearing their armor. if i resurrect them they put their gear on but will be naked again the next time i enter the room. its almost like they are taking of there clothes for some weird reason.

I told you. there is much more to WAC than the Smurfs...

I'm not sure how much I made Bronze stronger. WHat I meant was to make bronze heavier and more expensive. I need to recheck on every weapons.

Some of the mage in guilds are offering their services. While that happen in vanilla, they will un-equip armors if they wear one. In WAC I changed their service packages so they don't remove their battlerobes even on duty.
However it depends on if you load something else that change mages (and their AI) after WAC in your load order. If WAC is loaded last you shouldn't have this problem.

On a small Island near Anvil (South East) you've place a wood Tower (not sure what the word is). Are you planning to do more?

it's just a lone tower on that Island. I can remove it easy. No problem.

now however i enabeled WAC and disabled the realswords mods only to see that all the weapons i collected are gone
including moonbrand.
is there anyway to get it back or so?

Unfortunately no. RealSwords the old stuff, is out-dated, and is also built differently than WAC RealSwords. You'll have to get Moonbrand again.
RealSwords are previews. I always said that. This in WAC is the last RealSwords though.

Awesome but aren't the bows a bit big for short ranged combat?

The bow is of a regular size. In the CS they appear higher on the characters back.. every bows (vanilla too) appear too high on their back in the CS. no idea why is that.

Their b oo b is missing...

Indeed. What do you think an Amazon look like exactly? In history as well as in my mind..that's much closer to an Amazon. At least much closer than what you can find elsewhere in Oblivion and that borrowed the same name.

[washington]

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Some of the mage in guilds are offering their services. While that happen in vanilla, they will un-equip armors if they wear one. In WAC I changed their service packages so they don't remove their battlerobes even on duty.
However it depends on if you load something else that change mages (and their AI) after WAC in your load order. If WAC is loaded last you shouldn't have this problem..

now however i enabeled WAC and disabled the realswords mods only to see that all the weapons i collected are gone
including moonbrand.
is there anyway to get it back or so?

Unfortunately no. RealSwords the old stuff, is out-dated, and is also built differently than WAC RealSwords. You'll have to get Moonbrand again.
RealSwords are previews. I always said that. This in WAC is the last RealSwords though.
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Their b oo b is missing...

Indeed. What do you think an Amazon look like exactly? In history as well as in my mind..that's much closer to an Amazon. At least much closer than what you can find elsewhere in Oblivion and that borrowed the same name.

About the robes... I think that it would be better to give them unplayable clothing version of the robes instead of changing thier AI-

Dhaka: Enchant your Moonbrand before disabling old RS. That way it will become part of your save instead of RS and it will stay even after you disable RS.

Re boob(s): IIRC they've removed the boob because it was an obstacle to use bows better? I'm noticing, not complaining.

[Waalx]

About the robes... I think that it would be better to give them unplayable clothing version of the robes instead of changing thier AI-

Thats an idea.. I will do that.

Dhaka: Enchant your Moonbrand before disabling old RS. That way it will become part of your save instead of RS and it will stay even after you disable RS.

Not sure about this as if I recall right Moonbrand is already enchanted..or maybe I'm wrong and it,s just scripted. One way or the other..

Remember that if you enchant a RS weapon, it kill the racial script. When I'm going to create more magical weapons (ie: RS Altmer)...those will have enchantment and a script, so they will stay the same.

Legendary blades (of which Moonbrand is) are going to get this treatment too later on.

Re boob(s): IIRC they've removed the boob because it was an obstacle to use bows better? I'm noticing, not complaining.

That's one thing.. I think that having them like this is much more interesting visually than if they were just naked babes or in steel bikini (as they are so often portrayed).
The ablation of one breast is kind of really extreme, and that's what get me. I like the visual shock of that thing. In WAC it's made to shock thou.
I wasn't after a fantasy type amazon babe..isn't there enough of that in Oblivion already anyway?

[washington]

It is indeed. It wonders me why Bethesda hasn't created more body types. Fat short old ladies ect...

[reallybigjohnson]

as for getting the swords, i cheated and added them all to the test chest just to see them. i cant wait till there are more imperial swords since they are based on the romans and romans rock. and im wondering why romans is being underlined by my spellcheck right now......

[Waalx]

It is indeed. It wonders me why Bethesda hasn't created more body types. Fat short old ladies ect...

WAC is going to get you that..fat people (and old). RS Gladiator has fat condemned mixed in.

When I get back to clothes, I will do fat versions of what clothes I can make fat (like in RS Breton). That's a next step in TCOS. I need to analyze who should be fat or old, or less muscular.

In RS Nordm the NPC Einan the Elder is an old one (much more slim and weak).

[Woodstock]

and im wondering why romans is being underlined by my spellcheck right now......

Try Romans.

Waalx what happened to the Celtic leafblade sword that was in the preview of RS Nord? Will it make a return in WAC TCOS?

Loving WAC btw, simply awesome.

[Waalx]

as for getting the swords, i cheated and added them all to the test chest just to see them. i cant wait till there are more imperial swords since they are based on the romans and romans rock. and im wondering why romans is being underlined by my spellcheck right now......

go back in this topic here viewtopic.php?t=249&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=810 and you will see what I did so far as Arena weapons. They mostly all Roman inspired. And since they are in the IC Arena in Cyrodiil. Arena weapons are Imperials.

Spellcheck give you an error for romans because it need a capital letter "Roman". As in English, French, Spanish, Latin, etc...

[Waalx]

and im wondering why romans is being underlined by my spellcheck right now......

Try Romans.

Waalx what happened to the Celtic leafblade sword that was in the preview of RS Nord? Will it make a return in WAC TCOS?

Loving WAC btw, simply awesome.

what happened is that nothing happened to it. I felt it wasn't Nord enough for me and I replaced it.

It may appear in Imperial, though. But if I base Imperials on what I already made for the Arena, RS Imperial is already too big.

I have to see. that sword never got a texture either..

[Cryhavoc66]

I came across a problem with WAC , Its makes my game crash when exiting Cloud ruler temple , it only started the other day , so il test more to see wat it really is ... Has anyone came across this problem