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Tlo1048 wrote:I to think it looks too Dwemer, no offense.
I think it needs a more golden, and bronze color. Without the Vanilla OB dwemer textures.
The steel is cool, but it also could use new textures.

I'm liking it so far though.
I think there should be a couple variations in the armor. Like for the trident bearer, he needs a Shoulder-face guard. And some gladiators had very heavy armor, instead of open. It would depend on the fight though.
There should also be a small buckler that most gladiators would wear, for petty, quick battles.

Here is a link to a gladiator helmet I found, I think the Grey Prince should wear it.
http://www.a2armory.com/images/helmets/gladiator.jpg

I also think this would be a cool helmet variation.
http://www.ditchampark.com/images/latin/latin2.jpg

After you make the mod, I'm gonna dl a pick up all arena stuff mod, so I can feel like a real warrior. :-)

I actually had a good idea, for the lions and stuff set them to randomly spawn throughout the battle, and keep spawning until the announcer says you won the fight. I'm pretty sure I can script that, with what meager script skills I have. :lol:
yeah I will remake the textures..for both. who am I kiddin..?


Now I have 4 helmet done. and I have enough references to make at least 6 others. (and yeah what you suggest I knew of). Made my homework and did a research for gladiators in the last days. Read a lot about them, I know what I have to do, or what I could do as well. It's if I will do it that matter here.

there will/should be differents kind of armors:

LIGHT

RETIARIUS (light) wore no helmet or body armor; other than some left arm protection. (Trident and net)

SECUTOR (light) wearing leather armour on the left leg, elbows and wrists, he carried a large shield and a sword. He also wore a heavy helmet and visor. (gladius & scutum shield)

THRACIAN (light) These fighters depended on being more lightly armored and therefore more agile and faster in evading their adversary. Thracians utilized an unusual "Sica" curved style sword and a small round "parma" shield, along with large greaves on both legs which extended above the knees. They had no chest armor; but did have full right arm protection and a crested helmet. (short gladius & small round shield)



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MIRMILLO (heavy) With just right arm protection and a non-visored helmet, these gladiators were relatively unprotected; but were still considered "heavy" fighters due to the large and heavy shield they carried. They fought with a gladius style sword. (gladius & scutum shield)

SAMNITE (heavy) One of the first types of Gladiator, they took their name from the Samnites, which were among the earliest enemies of the emerging Roman dominance of northern Italy. They generally utilized heavy armor with a visored helmet, large scutum shield, wrist guards and a greave "ocrea" on the lower left leg. Samnites fought with the Gladius sword giving rise to the general of term of "Gladiator" (gladius & scutum shield)

HOPLOMACHUS (Heavy) This style of fighter was very similar to the Samnite. They were more heavily armored with a fully protected right arm, large shield, more massive helmet and more leg protection. It appears that the Hoplomachus was a later style of the Samnite and they also fought with the gladius. During the Republic "heavy" fighters were termed Samnites and in the Empire Period they became known as Hoplomachus. (gladius and round shield)


about the lions in the arena..I would like it that there could be a third door that always open at the same time and release 1 to 3 beasts in each fight. but they shouldn't respawn in that fight, that is unrealistic.
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some gladiator blades. The imperial Asterix gladius was always intended in my mind for the Arena...

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StarX wrote:I might have to ask for some help now and than, so beware! :-)
yeah I was fearing this when posting the info about ModTool... :P yet as long as you don't ask me something every 10 minutes, it's alright, I'll help ye..
Hehe, I knew you'd say something like that! Don't worrie, I only ask something after I pulled out all my hairs in frustration. The tutorials are very clear, so that's a big plus.

The Asterix looks sweet (allmost cute!), but deadly sharp at the same time. I like it.
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Great Asterix, all of 'm :)
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the trident

yellow team here

Blue team will be a bit different

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Bluntweapon? Looks awesome btw ;)
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Thats cool!
It shouldn't be blunt weapon. It should be blade one hand, and someone could rig it to use 2H on back animation, but switch to 1H for attacking. Cause it looks real.

How are you planning on doing the net?
That would take alot of animating...
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You could do the net like a staff. You hold it in both hands, then "throw" it onto the enemy. Then you have to script a spell that does like, 1 second paralyze but only in a short range.
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actually I want to make the net as a shield. other than that I have no idea how to make it work. and I don't want to force the use of OBSE.

it's almost impossible to animate it (as a shield), so it's not going to be animated.

I know a retiarius would capture his oponnent in the net and then pin him down with the trident. But unfortunately that's not going to work in Oblivion.

for the trident I'm not yet sure what I will do, but it will be one handed for sure as the net will be in the left hand as a shield.
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Well all other spears (with Skycaptains spearmod) use bluntweapon so I think that's the best choice.
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No, someone made a mod called spartan spears, and it uses a one handed blade skill.
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True, but that uses no spearlike animations at all, Skycaptains mod uses the staff animation ;)
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But it doesnt need spear animations. It uses 1H blade, and it looks great. Though there are only 2 poorly done spears, the idea is great. It actually looks like a spear, and the attacks look like a spear.
You can find some pics of my characters using them, along with other weapons here.
http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x99/Tlo1048/
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Yes, but if people play with spears, they use blunt as a major, so why make this spear suddenly a blade ;)
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Because it has a blade on the end. :D

I actually made some really cool spears today, and I added them to the arena. Its actually fun now.
Y'know those 3 argonians that attack you all at once?
I gave them all good armor, and really good custom spears, so that battle is flippin' hard.
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I moved the posts of other peoples that post their own work in the gallery here, as this thread here is about my work on RealSwords... :angry:

If you want to post your own work, feel free to do so in the Public Gallery thread.

any images not made by me and therefore unrelated to this project, will be moved there. :-D-)
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Secutor helm


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Sorry, I forget. Will those helmets be biped to helm or hair?
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Look great :) Now you got a helmet to fear ^^
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the helmets will vary...

this Secutor one should hide the whole head and maybe the neck too..I will know later.

3 are going to show the face under, others will replace the whole head...I still have to see about this.

I have 5 helms that are modeled..I have at least two more I need to do, 1 Samnite and another model of Mirmillo.

from left to right

Secutor, Thracian, Thracian2, Mirmillo1, Hoplomachus/Champion

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