WAC Beta v0.1 - Downloads, comments, suggestions

[Waalx]

I think that it would be wise to ask bg2408 about the spells, ha has done bunch of work with the spells and magic system and he's quite friendly and helpful.

Some pics:
This one looks like it's been packed in the box and has a very funny expression!

The 'pose' was gone after I grabbed it. And it seems that his 'stuff' is wrong.

Pack of terror birds and some wolves, nothing to report I guess, they are just cool looking. They didn't attack.


This is just one cool bandit!!!

What the...hell is that boxy Jaguarodon? weird.. I will update it's loot and check the model.

Terror birds will not attack ever. Terror in their names mean 'terrified'. They should flee on sight

@ mormacil..

Tatoos were a quick test I made. It will probably disappear when I get to it as making a skin transparency that fit with every races skin color is impossible .

[Mormacil]

1) The boxy one is awesome, leave it as an easteregg or of a case of bad inbreeding

2) Oh I didn't realize it wasn't part of the skin... that changes things a bit... My bad...

[washington]

Jaguarodon was dead when I came there, probably one of the oblivion's havok hiccups! Terror birds, they were completely passive - weren't attacking nor fleeing.
I like the tatoos.

[Guest]

The Jaguarodon does not look like above in my version

But it is big

And Square


This beasty really suprised me

[Waalx]

square headed yes..that is normal as I use the Hyaenodon head model for this creature. It's meant to look odd.

But the boxy body isn't in my plan though.

[Sethsryt]

I've seen many bandits running around with weapons of another race, Redguards with Meyers, Khajiit with Breton swords. Etcetera.
Hmm, further, not much I think.
Oh wait, a little clipping issue:


By Sethsryt

Yes, I guess few will ever notice.

[Waalx]

I've seen many bandits running around with weapons of another race, Redguards with Meyers, Khajiit with Breton swords. Etcetera.
Hmm, further, not much I think.
Oh wait, a little clipping issue:


By Sethsryt

Yes, I guess few will ever notice.

Bandits in WAC use RealSwords at random.

Here's my reason about it. While testing I became aware that no matter what, I always met a certain type of foe that would use a certain type of blade/weapon. Normal. But RealSwords isn't really made with that in mind, at a second glance.

I was always meeting Bosmer Archers, and inevitably they would pull a bone dagger or an ivory dagger. Always the same.

So I decided to rethink this and have bandits use everything they can find. In a more advanced WAC, bandits will get a special weapon selection a bit like the goblins got. That won't keep them from wielding all the rest of RealSwords at random.

RealSwords racial bonus is not made for NPC but for the player only. So you will never get any effects or added abilities for NPC whether they use RS weapons or not. So it's a bit pointless NPC wise that bonus.

That didn't change the way other NPC get their weapons though. RS is still mostly racially based on NPC, except bandits.

And in a way, bandits are the one that need the most varied array of gears before becoming boring..that's why I'm not over with them yet.

I will check that cuirass again to see why it does this.

[urlastsight]

Waalx, i have to say the variety of new creatures and items you have added is amazing!!!I have only played for a short amount of time and havn't actually really been able to test anything out to be helpful yet, but i do have a one problem( sorry if some one has mentioned this already). As i was running around i notticed the nude females of different species in the game, i dont have a big problem with this, but their are children in the house so it presents a problem for me.

Im not actually expecting you to try and change this(though it would be very appreciated), because it actually makes since to have them, why would imps wear clothing or have no females?? and i've actually tried to start to remedy my problem myself by replacing female meshes with their male counterparts.I know you have alot to do with the mod, so if theirs no possibility of altering this, it would be nice if their was at least a heads up of what creatures or static objects have nude models. and just to verify i mean the atomically correct ones. If your not willing to do anything of the sort, since hunting down meshes can be annoying, then could i suggest at least a heads up when release comes out?

and sorry if i happend to miss a post about this, i ahve to admit that i did not read through every post, as theirs 70 pages of them

Also, ive found through my mesh replacing that the females torso for zombies are done differentlly than males. Do you have a suggestion on how to change this?

Thanks for all your time and this mod though, ive thoroughly enjoyed !!

[Sethsryt]

Ah I understand, I didn't mind, I just thought like "Hey, shouldn't they be racial based?"
But it makes sense, you never know where that bandit got his or her weapon from right?

[Waalx]

Waalx, i have to say the variety of new creatures and items you have added is amazing!!!I have only played for a short amount of time and havn't actually really been able to test anything out to be helpful yet, but i do have a one problem( sorry if some one has mentioned this already). As i was running around i notticed the nude females of different species in the game, i dont have a big problem with this, but their are children in the house so it presents a problem for me.

Im not actually expecting you to try and change this(though it would be very appreciated), because it actually makes since to have them, why would imps wear clothing or have no females?? and i've actually tried to start to remedy my problem myself by replacing female meshes with their male counterparts.I know you have alot to do with the mod, so if theirs no possibility of altering this, it would be nice if their was at least a heads up of what creatures or static objects have nude models. and just to verify i mean the atomically correct ones. If your not willing to do anything of the sort, since hunting down meshes can be annoying, then could i suggest at least a heads up when release comes out?

and sorry if i happend to miss a post about this, i ahve to admit that i did not read through every post, as theirs 70 pages of them

Also, ive found through my mesh replacing that the females torso for zombies are done differentlly than males. Do you have a suggestion on how to change this?

Thanks for all your time and this mod though, ive thoroughly enjoyed !!

Aye!

I forgot to mention that WAC v0.05 is rated M.

Yes it's eventually in my plan to do something about the Mature rating of some of the creatures/NPC.

I'm 35 so I don't mind and to me as well it feel more natural, but the truth is that I will need to make a patch for younger peoples.

There are lots of nudity in WAC. or partial, or monstrous breasts. And with the Arena it's full frontal during matches...(all the condemned are ready to return to Oblivion the way they came from...nude) ...or there are Amazons too (no fantasy pin-up here... but real ones -with a left breast amputation).

The easiest way would be for me to edit the WAC leveled list and remove the female references from them. That would be the first part, and the easiest for me to do..(it amount to the same result as replacing the females with males, but it's much shorter to do.)
The second part would be to trash that change and replace it with an optional model folder that can replace the references that show flesh with cloth/bra/underwear.

The zombie in WAC are at Phase I only. Phase II will bring other races, more heads, clothes and kids zombie... The way the females zombie are set up is different from what is in vanilla so you can't play with the parts as much. Phase II should expand the female zombie too...

I'm on it (making a patch that remove the M references). This should be already an option..

[urlastsight]

Aye!

I forgot to mention that WAC v0.05 is rated M.

Yes it's eventually in my plan to do something about the Mature rating of some of the creatures/NPC.

I'm 35 so I don't mind and to me as well it feel more natural, but the truth is that I will need to make a patch for younger peoples.

There are lots of nudity in WAC. or partial, or monstrous breasts. And with the Arena it's full frontal during matches...(all the condemned are ready to return to Oblivion the way they came from...nude) ...or there are Amazons too (no fantasy pin-up here... but real ones -with a left breast amputation).

The easiest way would be for me to edit the WAC leveled list and remove the female references from them. That would be the first part, and the easiest for me to do..(it amount to the same result as replacing the females with males, but it's much shorter to do.)
The second part would be to trash that change and replace it with an optional model folder that can replace the references that show flesh with cloth/bra/underwear.

The zombie in WAC are at Phase I only. Phase II will bring other races, more heads, clothes and kids zombie... The way the females zombie are set up is different from what is in vanilla so you can't play with the parts as much. Phase II should expand the female zombie too...

I'm on it (making a patch that remove the M references). This should be already an option..

ah thats very good to hear! and thank you for considering this!

[Mormacil]

Erm Oblivion itself is rated M

[Waalx]

here is a WAC for kids...

WAC - NONmature

Installation should be as described in the enclosed text.

If there are leftover, tell me.

[Sethsryt]

In the first or second book of the Real Barenziah, sexual content is hinted at.
It is about her sexual preferences and some Khajiit named Therris suggesting her Nord friend her and himself should do something called a "threesome".
But I find it odd that Oblivion is named Mature while Morrowind has more adult content..
Then again, I don't find Oblivion that shocking for the kids. I mean.. Wow nude breasts, that's one of the first thing you see in your life.

[Mormacil]

Don't forget the Argonian Maid Or the Flesh Atronachs are basically nude monsters.

[Sethsryt]

But really, the most perverted thing was in the vanilla game.. The nude breast texture. *Gasp*
That was totally it, went from teen to mature for that. xD
I wonder though, what's wrong with the zombies. Okey they are nude but I do not find them that 'mature'.

[urlastsight]

Erm Oblivion itself is rated M

yes i know this, but oblivion didn't contain things like that in the first place, at least not that you could see. I dont mind it for myself, but the wife does..and id rather not create problems there . and the references to sexual content in books, like the kids are going to sit there and actually read over my shoulder. and i think the reason the reason zombies didnt matter is that even tho they are nude, and so are other beast, theirs no genitalia on the zombies so you cant actually tex wich sex they are, even tho i would guess their men.

O yes and thank you for the patch Waalx!!!

[Sethsryt]

The wife does, mhm now I understand. Though the wife should know! But lets not get against the fems, for remember thee amazones.
On that, Waalx, are you really going to create such amazones? That would be totally awesome.
I wonder how it would look, though they might look like the classical Androgyne pictures.. One male breast, one female breast. >.>

But you said the new WAC was just around the corner. Hope it is not impatient of me to ask how soon the next release will be? >.<

[Waalx]

On that, Waalx, are you really going to create such amazones? That would be totally awesome.

But you said the new WAC was just around the corner. Hope it is not impatient of me to ask how soon the next release will be? >.<

Amazons are made. The arena is getting big, you just don't know how much I have done already (which is fine with me )

When I said WAC was just around the corner, I was saying this before I released v0.05, right? I'm covered. You have enough to discover for a while with WAC in it's present state.. no?

The next thing to come out is going to be RS Gladiator. What RS Gladiator will be..if I release it as Stand-alone or just as a beta before bringing it in WAC..that remain to be seen. I'm still unsure about having two Arena mods released under my name. I may just release it with WAC to skip the pain of having to manage two releases...

After that I'm bringing the Arena in WAC, and returning to WAC to squash some bugs and make some fixes. Then you'll get WAC v0.06 codenamed: Arena.

After that RS Dunmer (and the Morag Tong).

After that back to WAC again..

[Sethsryt]

Meh that's what I meant, the arena.

I must have been reading old posts, must be about version 0.05. I haven't been back as long, Wac and a few other mods really brought me back to Oblivion so.. Yes, must be before the 0.05 wac. Sorry 'bout that. But got that cleared up in my mind now.
Haha, and yes, I have enough to explore, but you know us, we want more and more and more. What a poem.
But yes, I have no real idea about how much is already been done. But I am very eager to find out what all has been done. Just need to be patient. >.< But I meant the Arena and such, you know, a new release.

Any chance for screenshots on the amazones?

RS Dunmer and the Morag Tong, you mean there will be quests or a guild for the Morag Tong?
Haha, when it continues to head this way, we don't need another Bethesda release or overhaul in the future. xP

But I'll stay tuned, and for the moment, I am going to take Vigdis to take the short way from Bruma to Cheydinhall to join the Fighters Guild, she might be able to test the Goblins and wildlife around that place a lot. I'll keep you updated for any more things I encounter.