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- Haruko
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it's a good suggestion, and IMHO it'll add some neatness to some of the legendaries. though I think Waalx is planning on most of them being really plain, but yeah a few of them having some cool script, or etching, or even scars from long use would be really cool.
It's a pally thing, you wouldn't understand.
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- Waalx
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hmmm..yes, Legendary Blades will get some that are more etched and detailed. but not for the Shalioma. its a plain blade for 2 reasons.
1- the model is like that in real, it's not carved or nothing.. ah and it's a Jody Samson blade by the way..
2- When Shalioma forged this one, he was dying. it was the last thing he did, and he made it to be a functional weapon of unknown power among his cat race, a two-handed sword. He had not the time to make it a sculpture..he was making a weapon..
(if you don't know who Shalioma is, I suggest you head over the Chronicles of Steel forum here, and read the story that bear his name. In the Chronicles of Steel, he is the central smith and is in almost all khajiit stories (by me or Elhazan).
texture isn't finished so it will look better than this, but it won't be carved. and its also a fairly new blade, that haven't been used often in battle, as it was somekind of inheritance from the cat master smith. his family kept the blade. It was reproduced though. and this blade will be available as an ordinary blade in the normal Khajiit module.. but they won't have the edge of the original...
1- the model is like that in real, it's not carved or nothing.. ah and it's a Jody Samson blade by the way..
2- When Shalioma forged this one, he was dying. it was the last thing he did, and he made it to be a functional weapon of unknown power among his cat race, a two-handed sword. He had not the time to make it a sculpture..he was making a weapon..

texture isn't finished so it will look better than this, but it won't be carved. and its also a fairly new blade, that haven't been used often in battle, as it was somekind of inheritance from the cat master smith. his family kept the blade. It was reproduced though. and this blade will be available as an ordinary blade in the normal Khajiit module.. but they won't have the edge of the original...

- Haruko
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sweet, I wish I had time to read the story, but lately I'm rarely even home, so the most I do is try to work on the mod I'm doing (that helmet still...) and the comic my friend and I are doing, so I have little time for anything even remotly entertaining.
It's a pally thing, you wouldn't understand.
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Great work as usual, though i am unable to fully enjoy it as ive been out of town on business(and will be again this upcoming week). Was a great surprise and joy to pop home and see the Breton release though,Waalx wrote:ah, but great swordmasters in the past were going to war with wooden swords and killed a lot, the most legendary swordmaster in japan fought all his life with mostly only his wood sword just to piss off everyone, mastery..that is.. In the hand of the right person, it can be as deadly as a real sword...
yes it's not actually quite balanced and I am aware of it,..
Berserk is probably the inspiration that inspired the smith..I guess.. not sure about it though.

Though i could help clarify your statement though.
Musashi Miyamato whom is the man your referring to was famous for many reasons but he actually only used wood a few times. The generally accepted story/history is that near the end of his career as a dueler he was given a challenge by another good young swordsman. He arrived late and met the man and the witness. He did not draw his blades though and instead picked up a wooden oar and shaved down the paddle so he had a sturdy stick. Then he dueled the young man. His skill was still so great though, that with a blow to the head during the fight he unwillingly slew the young man.
It was one of the last duels he ever performed, and shortly afterward he retired to a life where he wrote a celebrated book on swordsman ship and started up his own sword school dedicated to his unique style.
Until he arose to the famous man he became, no man fought with two blades. Even though every samurai wore more than one blade. It was his unorthodox approach to sword schools using both weapons in his fighting style that lent to his undefeated dueling record and rise to fame.
And if all of that was not so interesting, there is a wealth of information on Musashi in many forms that do him far greater justice.
- Mormacil
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Nice piece of history 

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- Waalx
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I read that over 15 years ago, but I kind of remember he did fight more than once with a wooden sword. He didn't had his two-sword fighting style all his life, and when he was younger I recall he was going only with a wood sword, and that's how he started to test himself against many swords schools. eventually somebody give him real swords, but until that time he was only fighting with his wood blade. and even when he had his real metal swords he was still fond of using only a wood blade to best his opponent in a most humiliating way for them...he was not using the metal ones always, and sometimes he would avoid it.Jia wrote:Great work as usual, though i am unable to fully enjoy it as ive been out of town on business(and will be again this upcoming week). Was a great surprise and joy to pop home and see the Breton release though,Waalx wrote:ah, but great swordmasters in the past were going to war with wooden swords and killed a lot, the most legendary swordmaster in japan fought all his life with mostly only his wood sword just to piss off everyone, mastery..that is.. In the hand of the right person, it can be as deadly as a real sword...
yes it's not actually quite balanced and I am aware of it,..
Berserk is probably the inspiration that inspired the smith..I guess.. not sure about it though.!
Though i could help clarify your statement though.
Musashi Miyamato whom is the man your referring to was famous for many reasons but he actually only used wood a few times. The generally accepted story/history is that near the end of his career as a dueler he was given a challenge by another good young swordsman. He arrived late and met the man and the witness. He did not draw his blades though and instead picked up a wooden oar and shaved down the paddle so he had a sturdy stick. Then he dueled the young man. His skill was still so great though, that with a blow to the head during the fight he unwillingly slew the young man.
It was one of the last duels he ever performed, and shortly afterward he retired to a life where he wrote a celebrated book on swordsman ship and started up his own sword school dedicated to his unique style.
Until he arose to the famous man he became, no man fought with two blades. Even though every samurai wore more than one blade. It was his unorthodox approach to sword schools using both weapons in his fighting style that lent to his undefeated dueling record and rise to fame.
And if all of that was not so interesting, there is a wealth of information on Musashi in many forms that do him far greater justice.
but well...15 years ago start to be a long time, and my memory about it may have mixed things....so I ordered the book today from Amazon. It's just the best story on samurai I ever read..so it's a good buy...!
Musashi
( I know this is historical fiction. and maybe that's why I remember the character this way)
quote of a reviewer there : "There is only one bad point about this book: it ends."
hehe
of course there's also the Book of five rings by Musashi himself..
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Vagabond is a good comic book on Musashi as well..
I don't agree about it being 'not so interesting'. It's a very interesting historical figure.

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Well sometimes peoples takes or reactions on historical figures are outside our own mindset. I tend to add a line like that anytime i talk about anything historical in case someone finds my words or interpretation on it boring. A lil reminder that perhaps i didnt do it full justice and your own investigations will be better.
And yes come to think of it i believe he killed his uncle, or someone else in his very first duel with a wooden stick of some sort. But he did not intentionally use it for dueling much after. He earned his swords by joining the army, surviving a defeat of some sort and then worked his way through to become a Samurai.(he was the last of many people to do this for shortly after the government made such rising through the ranks impossible)
The vagabond manga is indeed very good. A great intepretation of his story with solid artwork.
I love the 3 movies that were made starring Toshiro Mifune. To this day i see Mifune in my mind every time i think of Musashi.
On the random topic of wooden swords, one of Japans greatest mythological figures who wielding the grasscutter blade and helped found the first dynasty used a wooden sword to slay an oppenent. The story seemed very off though, for a hero anyway. He pretended to befriend the man he planned to kill and spent much time with him. Eventually they were relaxing from a duel and settled into a shallow pool to rest with their wooden sparring swords. But Kusanagi jumped up grabbed his real sword and cut the man down who only had a wooden sword to defend himself with.
And he is considered the hero...always found that odd. If someone pretended to be my friend, betrayed me during rest and while i was unarmed killed me i would be miffed if he turned out the good guy too.
Maybe you should make a wooden sword for the legendary set. Give it some teaser history and some odd enchantment making it blunt for damage purposes or something,
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And yes come to think of it i believe he killed his uncle, or someone else in his very first duel with a wooden stick of some sort. But he did not intentionally use it for dueling much after. He earned his swords by joining the army, surviving a defeat of some sort and then worked his way through to become a Samurai.(he was the last of many people to do this for shortly after the government made such rising through the ranks impossible)
The vagabond manga is indeed very good. A great intepretation of his story with solid artwork.
I love the 3 movies that were made starring Toshiro Mifune. To this day i see Mifune in my mind every time i think of Musashi.
On the random topic of wooden swords, one of Japans greatest mythological figures who wielding the grasscutter blade and helped found the first dynasty used a wooden sword to slay an oppenent. The story seemed very off though, for a hero anyway. He pretended to befriend the man he planned to kill and spent much time with him. Eventually they were relaxing from a duel and settled into a shallow pool to rest with their wooden sparring swords. But Kusanagi jumped up grabbed his real sword and cut the man down who only had a wooden sword to defend himself with.
And he is considered the hero...always found that odd. If someone pretended to be my friend, betrayed me during rest and while i was unarmed killed me i would be miffed if he turned out the good guy too.
Maybe you should make a wooden sword for the legendary set. Give it some teaser history and some odd enchantment making it blunt for damage purposes or something,

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actually he joined the army as a pike man and wasn't given swords. he was very low rank soldier then and survived by luck only, from what I know the swords he used there on the battlefield were stolen from a fallen body, and he didn't keep them long, and when he used them the real battle was already over and his side had lost.. he used swords to defend himself from being killed by the side who won the battle, and he became a fugitive.Jia wrote:He earned his swords by joining the army, surviving a defeat of some sort and then worked his way through to become a Samurai.(he was the last of many people to do this for shortly after the government made such rising through the ranks impossible)
he started using a wooden sword when he went into isolation and passed a long while in the forest, practicing. after that part he went on his travel plan to visit and defy every school and best them with his wild and unusual technique.. and then he was using his wooden blade, and it was infuriating his opponent who saw him only as very filthy Ronin. at that time he had only his wooden practice sword.. from what I remember, the blades he acquire later on in his life will be given to him by a friend.
and as I thought, it was. just looking in my Vagabond comics, Musashi fight only with a wooden blade until Vol. 8, where he is given two blades by the old master of Hishun style. Verify your information..I was right!

and I'm sure he kept using his wood sword afterward. it was one of the point of the story, a guy with a stick that don't use his real blade to defeat his enemy, and not any enemies, but masters of their own style.

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Well before i am exiled to the land of brotherly love(Philladelphia not San Francisco. Thats another kind of "bro love") i say...
Wheres our wooden blade for the legendary set.
And i shall take your word on the comic, as i only read bits and pieces and that too was a few years back. Though much like the 3 samurai movies with Toshiro Mifune i dont think its entirely precise historically of course. But still very enjoyable.
And im sad, only got a lil bit of playtime with the breton swords. Even made a breton character and i havnt come across any yet. Khajit, Bosmer swords i was getting all the time, but suddenly i cant find a breton NPC for the life of me,
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Wheres our wooden blade for the legendary set.

And i shall take your word on the comic, as i only read bits and pieces and that too was a few years back. Though much like the 3 samurai movies with Toshiro Mifune i dont think its entirely precise historically of course. But still very enjoyable.
And im sad, only got a lil bit of playtime with the breton swords. Even made a breton character and i havnt come across any yet. Khajit, Bosmer swords i was getting all the time, but suddenly i cant find a breton NPC for the life of me,

- Mormacil
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Try conjurers, so outside Ayleid ruins.
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a new arena helm





- Mormacil
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Cool
Now that's a good looking helmet. Simple and effecient. No glass or crystall stuff but something that actually protects you 


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another new helmet



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- Mormacil
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The mohawk-thing seems a bit heavy.
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- mitkoa
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My guess is you did some research on helmets, so maybe I'm out of my league here, but don't you think the field of view of the last helmet is too restricted? Also the mohawk is too shiny IMO. Other than that subzero. 
EDIT: Oh how about a mohawk with a different color for each rank?
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EDIT: Oh how about a mohawk with a different color for each rank?
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Zx14 vs hayabusa
- Mormacil
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I think it's a decent view for a full face-covering helmet.
Hmm thisone looks farmiliar...

Hmm thisone looks farmiliar...

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